Bastani Straw-manning Galloway
The disingenuous and mendacious Bastani
In this interview with George Galloway, he expresses controversial views on homosexuality, stating that he doesn't want his children to be taught that gay relationships are normal. He also discusses his social conservative beliefs and his veneration for the institutions of the British State. The interviewer reflects on Galloway's complex persona, highlighting his political calculations and missed opportunities for impactful political change.
Detailed Summary for [THAT Galloway Interview: Aaron Bastani Breaks It Down](
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George Galloway expresses his concerns about the premature sexualization of children and disagrees with teaching them that all relationships are equal to a heterosexual couple.
- Galloway does not want his children taught that some things are normal when their parents don't believe they are.
- He disagrees with teaching children about the existence of numerous genders.
- Galloway believes that children should be taught that a heterosexual couple with children is the normal family structure, while also being taught to respect and treat gay people with affection.
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In this section, Aaron Bastani discusses his interview with George Galloway and expresses his shock at Galloway's comments about homosexuality.
- Bastani conducted a two-hour interview with Galloway and asked open-ended questions.
- Galloway stated that homosexuality is not normal but should be treated with affection.
- Bastani disagrees with Galloway's views on homosexuality but acknowledges that there are people who agree with him on certain issues.
- Bastani expresses his surprise and disbelief at Galloway's comments, particularly when Galloway contradicted himself by saying gay people are not equal but voted for gay marriage.
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In this section, the speaker discusses Tony Blair's statement about invading Zimbabwe and Burma, and mentions his accurate predictions about the consequences of the Iraq war.
- The speaker mentions that Tony Blair had expressed a desire to invade Zimbabwe and Burma.
- The speaker claims that everything he told Tony Blair in a conversation before the Iraq war came to pass, including the emergence of Al-Qaeda in Iraq.
- The speaker talks about the murder of a friend by an Al-Qaeda-inspired knife man and how it connects to his discussion about Tony Blair's legacy.
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George Galloway's political persona is a combination of political calculation and genuine social conservatism, which has become more pronounced as he has gotten older.
- Galloway's line about respect for the institutions of the British State is not new and aligns with his socially conservative attitudes.
- He has expressed radical opinions on various issues but may lean into social conservatism to gain permission to have these opinions.
- Galloway's Catholic upbringing and increasing religiosity as he gets older contribute to his socially conservative views.
- His political calculation of combining social conservatism with radical opinions has proven to be effective.
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Aaron Bastani discusses the importance of interviewing public figures like George Galloway to understand their political objectives and ambitions.
- It is important to talk to people in public office to illuminate what they think and their political objectives.
- A two-hour conversation is more effective than snippets and gotchas on TV.
- Aaron Bastani enjoys talking to older people like George Galloway as they provide insights and facts that are not easily accessible.
- George Galloway could have been a game-changing national political figure, but he made some mistakes and was not a team player.
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April 23, 2019 #NOVARRAMEDIA #AARONBASTANI STRAWMANNING , SHADOW BOXING AND OTHERWISE TALKING TO HIMSELF. CULTURAL MARXISM AND THE ART OF APPEARING RIGHT.
Novarra and Aaron are obviously Gatekeepers part of the NGO Sockpuppet Complex, probably watch Zizeck and Peterson if you want to see two people really talk these things through. This is as Cringeworthy as Sam Harris and Montbiot trying to have a dialogue with Noam Chomsky or In Defense of usury, Bentham’s attempted dialogue with Adam Smith. If nothing else this is an entertaining innovation on the Strawman approach to arguing with one’s self, The Monty Python Argument Sketch is the closest thing to it I can think of.
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You Novara people are really just plastic soldiers in the class war. George is so massively over the target it makes your identity, climate crisis wet bedding nonsense stand out for the utter tosh it is. https://grubstreetinexile.substack.com/p/from-totalitarian-state-monopoly
[06/05/2024 12:52] Ranjan:to Me.
Is it funny that Aaron has become a Catholic and that he's arguing with George Galloway about things that no Catholic would normally argue about. Though I have to say I did notice that in the Washington post yesterday there's an article about how the current Pope is doing a lot of work with transsexual sex workers. In no way do I think that that is a bad thing, but there is obviously room for debate. Just because you helped transsexual sex workers it doesn't mean that you are encouraging children to follow the transsexual sex worker path.
[06/05/2024 12:59] : Hi Ranjan,
Its a strawman argument that Novara are pushing. Galloway said what he said and most people agree with him, Homosexuaity is not Natural from the point of view of pro creation, would Natural have been a better word than Normal , Bastani is saying he should have said typical. There are Men and Woman , biologically that is what nature requires for our species to propagate. Galloway will I think level the Bastani strawman, watching the Bed Wetting echo chamber go into a meltdown will be entertaining but does distract from the Issue and that is that Elitist condescending non entities are in our political institutions pushing an anti human misanthropic ideology which is beggaring our societies.
George Galloway: Rochdale MP criticised for 'blatant homophobia' after saying gay relationships are not 'normal'
Helen Corbett
Thu, 2 May 2024 at 12:41 pm BST·2-min read
George Galloway has been accused of 'blatant homophobia' after saying he doesn't think that gay relationships are equal to heterosexual relationships. In an interview with Novara Media, the Rochdale MP said: "I don’t want my children prematurely sexualised at all, I don't want them taught that some things are normal when their parents don't believe that they're normal.
"Now there's lots of things not normal, doesn't mean you have to hate something that isn't normal. But if my children are taught that there's – whatever the current vogue number is – 76 or 97 or whatever the number of purported genders that exist, I don’t want my children taught that."
Mr Galloway became the MP for Rochdale in February, gaining almost 40% of the vote in a contest mired in chaos and controversy and dominated by the Gaza conflict.
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Write the following input in the style of a reasoned objective reporting of the arguments presented remmbering the interviewees stonewall award for suppport of Gay Marriage legislation?
In a recent interview, George Galloway, a prominent political figure known for his support of Gay Marriage legislation, discussed his views on "Woke Politics" and LGBT education. Galloway, who has been recognized with a Stonewall award for his support of gay rights, expressed his concerns about the current state of education and the implications of certain teachings on children.
During the interview, Galloway was questioned about his political stance, with the interviewer drawing parallels between Galloway's views and those of the new left. Galloway clarified that while he supports certain progressive policies such as House of Lords abolition and proportional representation, he holds more conservative views on social and moral issues. He emphasized that his beliefs have not aligned with liberal ideology, and that his perspective has been shaped by his religious and moral convictions.
One of the key points of contention raised during the interview was Galloway's stance on LGBT education in schools. Galloway expressed his concerns about the content being taught to children, particularly in regard to issues of gender identity and sexual orientation. He emphasized that while he supports equality and respects individuals regardless of their sexual orientation, he does not want his children to be taught that certain non-traditional gender identities are equivalent to the traditional male-female dynamic. Galloway's position reflects a belief in the importance of traditional family structures while acknowledging the need for respect and acceptance of diverse identities.
The discussion also delved into Galloway's religious beliefs and their influence on his views. Galloway identified as a Roman Catholic and attributed his perspectives on gender and sexuality to his religious convictions. He emphasized the importance of recognizing biological sex as the norm, while also acknowledging the existence of individuals whose gender identity differs from traditional norms. Galloway's position underscored the tension between religious doctrine and societal shifts in attitudes towards gender and sexuality.
Furthermore, the interview touched upon Galloway's opposition to certain legislative measures related to gender recognition and transgender rights. He expressed reservations about allowing individuals with gender recognition certificates to access spaces such as changing rooms based on their identified gender. Galloway's concerns centered on the potential impact on children and traditional societal norms, reflecting a broader societal debate on the balance between individual rights and societal values.
Throughout the interview, Galloway's unwavering stance on these issues was evident, emphasizing his commitment to upholding traditional values while navigating the complexities of modern societal attitudes towards gender and sexuality. His perspective highlights the ongoing discourse surrounding LGBT education, religious beliefs, and individual rights within the broader political landscape.
In conclusion, George Galloway's interview shed light on his reasoned and objective approach to discussing contentious issues such as LGBT education and gender identity. His unwavering commitment to traditional values, coupled with his recognition of individual rights and diversity, presents a nuanced perspective that reflects the complexity of navigating societal change within the framework of deeply held beliefs. As a recipient of the Stonewall award for his support of gay rights legislation, Galloway's views contribute to the ongoing dialogue surrounding these important societal issues.
Helena
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what do you make of the Workers Party
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slate of candidates and their prospects
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of being elected Galloway may be there
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after the next general election but will
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he be joined by anyone else well if we
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look at these kind of broader policy
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perspectives the kind of I guess we've
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not really seen like specific policies
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we've got the kind of the general Vibes
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of the kind of issues that he's looking
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to run on what do you kind of broadly
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have economically kind of guess Social
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Democratic even though they have some
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other full kind of left-wing elements of
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the party as well when you look at the
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kind of things they campaign on broadly
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Social Democratic in terms of social
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policy he's clearly marketing himself
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and the party who being like an part the
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anti-woke ticket he's been things like
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anti-migration in terms of things like
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anti- like Net Zero policy talking about
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catastrophizing Green alarmism in terms
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the way people discuss things like green
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policy when it comes to foreign policy
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it's broadly I guess campused is the way
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you would describe it in terms I mean
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this is B who openly supports any you
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know foreign dictator as long as they
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are opposed to Western interests
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regardless of the the veracity whether
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they not whether or not they're a good
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leader and I don't see where the
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Coalition of Voters is bought by this
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particular set of policy prescriptions
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right if you want to I think there's a
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space open I think many people have
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admitted it at this point that for a
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kind of leftwing party in terms of the
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economy that also can campaign on
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towards kind of more authoritarian
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social policy but there are so many
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different parts of this Prospectors that
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would put off anybody from loads of
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these different camps for example if
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you're part of the kind of the anti-woke
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vs who want to you know get rid of all
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of the discussions of identity politics
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even though they seem to be the people
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themselves who the most obsessed with it
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pole but regardless these are also the
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kind of people who will be super put off
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by anybody who might undermine British
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defense by supporting people who are
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technically opposed to Western political
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interests globally so that's broadly the
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reason why Corbin lost so much support
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from 2017 to 2019 was this expose of him
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as being a fan of hisbah and Hamas for
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example obviously nonsense claims but
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you there's been that's the claim that
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rich sunak made about George Gallery
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that could us to undermine that
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particular voting cohort and those of us
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from a socialist perspective for example
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on the economy would immediately get put
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off by the kind of climate skepticism
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those kind of claims that you've seen
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from him in regards to policy as well so
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there's not a broad Coalition there
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either very funny that one of his
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candidates that spoke at his uh launch
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event there talked about or we need to
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bring back industry to the
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de-industrialized areas of the north and
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those kind of areas and I'm like yeah I
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100% agree but that's not coming back in
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terms of just regular commodity
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production that's long gone the
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industries of the future are going to be
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large scale green investment and if
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you're going to be a anti- NetZero party
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or at least be a skeptical of Net Zero
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then where's the investment going to
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come for these jobs which are going to
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have to be green job this doesn't make
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sense either on top of that if you're
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going to be part of this kind of
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socially conservative background how are
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you ever going to get the broad support
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of the kind of Corbin era of politics
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who are broadly incredibly socially
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Progressive which is diametrically
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opposed to the kind of politics that
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George Galloway represents as for the
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candidate say anything Monty panaz is
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certainly somebody I have a lot to agree
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with I think he's good on climate change
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he's got on things like mental health
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and big fan of him on the cricket field
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as well but outside of that it doesn't
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look like they've got many kind of
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people with huge amounts of Star Quality
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other than people who were on MEPS
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however many years ago so really and
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truly I don't see the route to which
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Galloway can have broad enough appeal or
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broad enough Star Quality to actually
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win that many seats at the next election
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yeah i' with that I don't think they're
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going to win many seats I think George
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Galloway keeping his seat would be an
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extraordinary accomplishment it's very
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unusual to win a seat in a b elction as
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a non- legacy part and to keep it um if
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they add to it I think if they got two
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seats that would just be mind buckling
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you know and I think the Big Challenge
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really with Galloway looking at the
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experience of respect the political
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party he was involved in in in response
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to the Iraq war is can they keep it up
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you know if this is going to be a
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coherent political formation which has
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two seats after the general election and
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then they have you know a bunch of
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second places a bunch of third places
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they'll contest those again in the
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election thereafter you can become a you
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can become a national political party
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that that's that's possible uh but with
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Galloway history indicates that he you
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know he's like a a shooting star you
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know you see him but then he sort of he
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sort of disappears from view that may
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not be the case this time but that's the
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tendency we've seen historically also on
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the um the opportunist sort of label he
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gets this is what I find particularly
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interesting with Galloway is that on
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certain issues he is absolutely
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principled you know he was involved in
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Dundee politics
1. The discussion on LGBT education in schools raises important questions about the balance between teaching diversity and respecting traditional beliefs.
2. The clash between religious beliefs and progressive values is a complex issue that requires careful consideration and respectful dialogue.
3. The role of parents in shaping the education and values of their children is a fundamental aspect of this debate, and finding common ground between differing perspectives is crucial.
4. The tension between religious doctrine and societal evolution is an ongoing challenge, and it calls for a nuanced approach that respects individual beliefs while promoting inclusivity.
5. The impact of political rhetoric on social attitudes and educational policies is a topic that merits deeper exploration, as it shapes the future of our society.
6. The intersection of religion, politics, and education underscores the need for open, respectful, and empathetic conversations that acknowledge diverse viewpoints.
7. The complexities surrounding gender identity, sexual orientation, and religious beliefs necessitate a balanced approach that upholds human rights while also respecting individual convictions.
8. The ongoing debate about LGBT education in schools highlights the need for inclusive, evidence-based curricula that foster understanding and respect for all individuals.
9. The ethical implications of legislating on matters related to gender identity and sexual orientation require thoughtful reflection and consideration of diverse perspectives.
10. The role of faith-based values in shaping societal norms and educational policies underscores the need for dialogue that bridges ideological divides while upholding fundamental human rights.
11. The conversation around LGBT education in schools provides an opportunity to explore how to create learning environments that are both inclusive and sensitive to diverse belief systems.
12. The tension between religious teachings and secular values in the context of education calls for a balanced approach that respects individual freedoms while promoting equality and diversity.
13. The complexities of navigating religious beliefs, human rights, and educational policies underscore the importance of fostering dialogue and understanding across diverse communities.
14. The intersection of religious convictions, human rights, and educational practices underscores the need for inclusive policies that respect individual beliefs while upholding fundamental principles of equality and non-discrimination.
15. The ongoing discourse on LGBT education in schools serves as a reminder of the importance of creating educational environments that embrace diversity while also respecting the values and beliefs of all members of society.
‘Woke Politics’ & LGBT Education
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surprised going back over it as I did over the weekend because you came across cross as a politician of the new left
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you talk about diversity you talk about climate change anti-war you talk about the changing electoral Coalition because
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of demographic change and whatnot and I was reading it and you you know you're you're in support of things I believe
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like PR um House of Lords abolition and I thought KY this is stuff that you know
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I could be reading this from Jeremy Corbin and yet now you're saying he's woke woker Etc which I I believe if I
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was to hear the rhetoric of both of you in 2024 but that wasn't the case 20 years ago well I I've I've never been a
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liberal uh I a no liberal bro I I've always had uh far less liberal views on
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you might call them social moral religious whatever you want to call them uh I have a more conservative mindset
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than most of the left then as well as now perhaps more now the older you get
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the more religious you get let me give you that uh uh warning uh in advance uh
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I have also I didn't recall saying anything about climate change in that book but if
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I did I've changed my use word green I think I've changed my mind about that I
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honestly believe that Net Zero is a very very expensive and dangerous destructive
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hoax uh that will beggar uh the mass of the British public uh in the interests
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of others who don't have our best interests at heart um no I think
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Jeremy's a vegetarian he's much more although I voted for gay marriage and
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the rest I'm not uh I don't want my children to be uh brought up to believe
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that you know men in frocks and all the transmania that's around I don't want my
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children exposed to that whereas I get the impression Jeremy probably be quite
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comfortable in one of these shows and I wouldn't so no uh I think that Jeremy
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wouldn't join the workers party uh of course if he did uh party would
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undoubtedly change because he'd bring a lot of people in with it but much more likely I hope that he forms some kind of
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Alliance of socialist organizations there's a name for you there was once a socialist Alliance
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before respect it's not a bad thing and different parties can as it were
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affiliate to it while retaining their own iconography their own vocabulary their own program it be an agreement on
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a limited program for that Alliance I hope he'll do that but from my talks with him on the back bench I have to
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tell you he doesn't seem to be ready to do that he doesn't seem to be ready to
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decisively break with the labor party I get the impression he thinks there might even at this hour uh be the possibility
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that he is the labor candidate in his linkon he still thinks that he didn't
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say that but my impression was he doesn't rule that out uh and if it
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happened he would accept it in other words he'd accept gear starmer's
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whip uh but if he isn't the labor candidate he wants to see to be as much
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the labor candidate as it's possible to be that precludes forming a National
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Organization resigning from the party uh endorsing other people even
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people close to him like uh Andrew Feinstein who's at the moment at least
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going to stand against starmer he won't even endorse him uh
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because that would be a trigger for expulsion from the labor party and for
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some reason he doesn't seem ready to make that step you mentioned a moment ago about what children are taught in
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schools I was going to raise this um a little bit later but now that you mentioned it let's let's get on to it
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there was um a letter you sent out prior to the rodale by elction several
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paragraphs here I think some some of them many people would agree with for instance I fight for small business you
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know you were making a case a surprising case for some people on the right um for small business and how actually you'll
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be standing up for those people and I think that's that's a great line the left doesn't do enough um but there's two paragraphs here one of them is in
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relation to what you just said about children and what they're taught um I
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believe in family I'm a father of six children five of them still at school and I don't like some of the things they
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are teaching our children so what specifically do you not like that's
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taught to children in schools well I I don't want my children prematurely sexualized IED at all I don't want them
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taught that some things are normal when their parents don't believe that they're
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normal now there's lots of things not normal doesn't mean you have to hate something that isn't
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normal but if my children are taught that there's whatever the current Vogue number is 76 or 97 or whatever the
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number of purported genders uh that EX exist I don't want my
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children taught that but are they taught that some of them are yeah are they cuz
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there's a huge there's a huge there's a huge gap here between saying I think kids should be going to school and
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taught that you know not all relationships look like a heteronormative couple male female there's a huge gap between saying they
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should know that there's lots of LGBT people in the world the world is very diverse that's what it looks like and
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you're saying 96 genders there's a there's a big gap in between isn't there well three of my children go to school a
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Catholic School in Scotland so they have some protections for the moment although
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the S SMP government's threatening to remove some of those protections uh but uh my other two
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school children uh are taught in England things
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that I don't want them to be taught and at an age I to be taught that
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relations uh that gay relationships are exactly the same and as normal as a mom
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a dad and kids I believe I want my children to be taught that the normal
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thing in Britain in society across the world is a mother a father and a
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family I want them to be taught that there are gay people in the world and
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that they must be treated with respect and affection as I treat my own gay
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friends and colleagues with respect and affection but I don't want my children
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to be taught that these things are equal because I don't believe them to be equal part from anything else the human race
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would no longer exist if if it was normal uh then it would be the end of
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humanity over a couple of generations so I don't believe that it's normal normal
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is a man a woman and children I'm especially incensed at the
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idea what I call transmania but hold on let's stick to the gay stuff first because you're somebody who's voted for
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gay marriage before so you do you obviously do think it's normal because you think that a homosexual couple
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should be able to marry so I voted for it I even voted that they should be allowed to adopt uh children so I'm not
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coming at this from a reactionary position let's stick with this for a moment then because you're saying normal
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it's clearly not typical clearly the number of LGBT people is a is a minority it's not typical but if we sort of take
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that word out which is quite low to normal and say I don't think it's typical I think well I'd agree with you it's clearly not typical but it is
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normal in so much as there are there are 68 million people in this country there are hundreds of thousands of people who
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are who are gays that I mean that there are thousands of them that's about as get as Norm it gets there are thousands
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of them married partly because of my vote there are thousands of them with
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children partly because of my vote but that doesn't mean it is the equal of
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that it should be promoted in school you voted for it to be the equal
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no I I voted for gay people why should straight people be the only people to enjoy the joys of divorce as joke as a
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joke no we're talking about kids here grown adults can do whatever they
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like on we're talking about what's taught to our kids in school you said it's not equal but then you're saying
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it's not normal I said it's equal but it's not normal well I think you said it well people can rewind and maybe I'm
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maybe you're wrong but the point is you voted for a piece of legislation which implicitly recognizes equality under the
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law for gay people I I got a stone wall award for recognizing yes wow I don't
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know that because I was one of only a handful of MPS who opposed the reduction
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in the age of consent from 21 to 18 rather than
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16 and Stonewall asked us not to accept
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this entirely discriminatory new law under John Major's government and I was
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one of the few maybe 10 labor MPS that voted for 16 and against 18
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because as I put it at the time that would have been like uh voting that uh
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Rosa Parks could sit in the middle of the bus but not the front uh so I
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rejected that and I I am the proud honor of a ston wall award so I believe in
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equality I don't want my children to be taught at school
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that Mom Dad and the kids is exactly the same
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as Adam and Steve I don't want them do you believe that I don't think you believe that I do believe that I mean I
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went to an NC CU I've just had a baby recently and I went to an NCT class and um there was a lesbian couple so
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obviously one is you know they've had IVF it's slightly different to an an all male couple in so much as you know
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there's a biological relationship between the they'd call it the birthing parent and um and the child
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and I don't I honestly and this is not to be you might call it woke or performative I honestly don't look at them as any different to me and my wife
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and I don't think they'll be I don't think it'll make the slightest difference with regards to their capacity to raise the kid I don't think it'll make the slightest difference in
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terms of that child's life chances I think having met them briefly I think very many people would be very fortunate
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to have parents who love them as much well I you're intelligent man you know that I hope that that is true but I
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believe in biological sex I believe that men and women ying and young are the
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norm and it should be taught as the norm with the heavy caveat that where someone
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is not the norm that they have to be treated with respect and affection and
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that they exist said Adam and Steve is that is that respect and affection you said I I mean that doesn't sound like
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respect and affection yeah I mean there are plenty of couples called Adam and Steve I expect right uh so well look the
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the facts are that I have never had a political office ever that did not
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contain at least one gay person in it in a senior
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position uh I even had an office in Glasgow where all of the staff were gay
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and they were very chuffed about the Stonewall award so I'm gay friendly I
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just don't want my kids to be T that it is the same for you to decide that you are are
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uh going to take the direction of Adam and Steve
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when the norm and the most happy and the most stable basis for society is Mom Dad
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and the kids that's a difference you and I have uh but it's my position it's
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always been my position even while I was voting for reforms in the law that made
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life easier for gay people so from that same leaflet you've got this line here
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and you you said it again already I believe in men and women God created everything in pairs and like the mainstream parties I
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have no difficulty in defining what a woman is I mean I sometimes wonder where
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does the where does George Galloway's opinions sort of end and where does the
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the the rhetoric begin so I I don't think you think that God created everything in pairs because you know the
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world of biology and I appreciate you you know you would say well we're not starfish or whatever but the world of
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biology shows that not not everything actually is czy imp Pairs and there's lots of ambiguity in the world including with humans when you have intersex
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people for instance so that's such a rare thing but the point is I think this
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is political ret it would take all my rhetoric to uh make the caveat about
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interex people and Starfish it is the case that God first of all we got to get
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this clear because I know that you're struggling with the idea I am a religious person I I'm I'm a
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Catholic yeah I am a Roman Catholic yeah I'm a faithful Roman Catholic yeah so my
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views come from that well uh you may
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also be a Catholic but are able to defy church doctrine in a way that I am not I
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don't I don't want to I believe these things what I wrote there def you defied
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church church doctrine already I mean you if you voted for gay marriage when the book of Deuteronomy calls that an
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Abomination When a Man Lies man you've already BR Jesus didn't write the book of Deuteronomy you've already crossed
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that that line I'm afraid Geor Jesus didn't write the book of Deuteronomy or any other book for that matter in the
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Bible these things were written by men hundreds of years after Jesus I believe in Jesus I'm a follower of Jesus Christ
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and I follow as best I'm able as a sinner as we all are and as Catholics
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are perhaps uniquely able to be forgiven for our sins I am a religious believer
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so my rhetoric will reflect that religious belief and my religious belief
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is that the vast majority of biology there
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are occasions the uh the uh kodo dragon is one of them uh if
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you believe London Zoo the Komodo dragon can impregnate itself that
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exists but for the vast majority of God's creation it's in pairs and it's in
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breeding pairs you didn't write that you said in well of of course that would be that would be very long winded rhetoric
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it's an election letter but if if if there are exceptions then that that creates the space where we say actually
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there are people who aren't necessarily the gender they were born into if you're saying that there is ambiguity and exceptions well if someone is in a
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gender that they were born into which is the wrong gender then they have my
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sympathy my respect and my affection but the vast majority of people vast
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majority are either men or they are women and I don't want my children
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taught uh that a woman can have a penis that a man can have a cervix but
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that's what the British political class wants them to believe and that has
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filtered down into the schools and is wrong it's not accepted by the vast
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majority of parents but the parents view doesn't seem to matter no politician
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this has been one of the most extraordinary features of a long political life for me how this
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transmania has swept the Western World captured the commanding Heights of uh of
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political discourse media discourse so that your jaw is actually literally now
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hanging open I'm waiting to talk what I'm saying I'm waiting to talk but what I'm seeing
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is the view of the vast majority of people in this country what that God
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made everything in pairs that God made everything in pairs and that a woman cannot have a penis and that a man
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cannot have a cervix that a man cannot become a woman so we we okay so we disagree on this but there are for
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instance people I know I'd love you to meet one of them a good friend of mine a transwoman they've had a gender recognition certificate they've had the
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transition surgery and so on and so forth surely there has to be a threshold where you would recognize that person is
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having transitioned no I would treat them and I have had experience of one
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comrade of ours on the executive of respect who transitioned and then
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transitioned back again and I used to shake his hands at the beginning of meetings when he was a man when he was
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identifying as a woman I used to kiss him on the cheek and when he came and told me he'd given up all that uh and uh
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he was back to his original identity I began shaking hands with him again before meeting so respect
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affection but not don't ask me to say
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that he is a woman and crucially that he can go into the lady's
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toilets after my wife or after my daughter that I will not accept we will
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not be able to change in the women's changing room in the swimming baths I
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won't accept that and neither will most people it's the fact that in
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schools it is indoctrinated in many schools by some
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teachers that these things are acceptable that a woman can have a penis
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that a man can have a cervix and that someone who identifies as a woman can
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thereafter invade women's spaces are you will to can go into women's athletic
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competitions can get in the boxing room ring with women and punch hell out of them get in the swimming pool and beat
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them by you're you're zooming out into want me to zoom out no because Sports is very contentious whereas we can say well
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why why is sports contentious but ladies changing rooms are not well no so for instance we could talk about women in
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sports CIS women and trans women there's a there's a there's a there's a level there that there's a conversation going on right now which is relatively recent
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but something like a transom woman using a changing room somewhere that's that's been in legislation for more than 10
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years that's part of the equality act but I oppose it it's very extraordinary that the idea should have taken root
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that a person with a penis can change in front of my seven-year-old daughter but
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if they've transitioned and they've got a gender recognition certificate we're on the verge and we're already over the
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Verge in Scotland where I live where self uh declaration is all that is
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required and I totally reject that so if they have a gender recognition certificate you might accept them using
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the same well I'm against the whole thing I think there have always been people men that wanted to be women felt
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that they were women and if I had encountered any of them as I did in the
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case of the uh person I mentioned earlier before there was anything called
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the gender recognition act I treat them uh as as they would like to be treated
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but when this uh comrade of mine was on that
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Journey if you had asked me to accept that with his dick swinging he
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could change next to my seven-year-old daughter the answer to that is
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no so you mentioned your religious um and it's interesting if you go on a Wikipedia sort of hunt of George
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Galloway it will it's quite ambiguous because there's people in the past they've said you're Muslim and this is
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quite a funny quite a funny Rumor for me to read um obviously you're very literate with issues in in West Asia and
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and and issues pertaining to the the foreign interests or the domestic issues of majority Muslim countries but there
Religion, Euthanasia & Abortion
Write the following input in the style of a tabloid hit piece and character assasination of the interviewee.
‘Woke Politics’ & LGBT Education
Controversial Political Figure George Galloway Under Fire for Outspoken Views on Woke Politics and LGBT Education
George Galloway, a prominent political figure known for his controversial views, has once again sparked outrage with his recent comments on "woke politics" and LGBT education. In a recent interview, Galloway made a series of statements that have drawn criticism and condemnation from various quarters.
In the interview, Galloway expressed his opposition to what he described as the "transmania" that has permeated the political and educational landscape. He vehemently voiced his disapproval of the teaching of diverse gender identities and sexual orientations in schools, particularly objecting to the notion of non-traditional relationships being presented as equal to heterosexual ones.
Galloway's remarks have been met with widespread condemnation, with many accusing him of promoting discriminatory and regressive attitudes towards the LGBTQ+ community. His views have been described as outdated, intolerant, and harmful, particularly in the context of promoting inclusivity and acceptance in society.
Furthermore, Galloway's stance on issues such as gay marriage, adoption by same-sex couples, and gender recognition has raised concerns about his commitment to equality and human rights. His assertion that "the normal thing in Britain in society across the world is a mother, a father, and a family" has been criticized as exclusionary and dismissive of diverse family structures.
Additionally, Galloway's reference to his religious beliefs as the basis for his views has sparked debate about the intersection of religion and public policy. Critics have argued that while individuals are entitled to their religious beliefs, imposing those beliefs on others through public discourse and policy advocacy is inherently problematic and divisive.
Moreover, Galloway's refusal to acknowledge transgender individuals according to their affirmed gender identities has been met with strong opposition from LGBTQ+ advocates and allies. His insistence on adhering to a binary understanding of gender has been labeled as transphobic and harmful to the transgender community.
In light of these developments, Galloway's controversial statements have reignited the ongoing debate surrounding the role of personal beliefs in shaping public discourse and policymaking. The clash between freedom of expression and the promotion of inclusive and respectful societal norms has come to the forefront once again, prompting reflection on the responsibilities of public figures in shaping public opinion.
As the controversy surrounding George Galloway's remarks continues to unfold, it serves as a reminder of the ongoing struggle for equality, acceptance, and understanding in contemporary society. The need for constructive dialogue, empathy, and education on issues related to gender identity and sexual orientation remains paramount in fostering a more inclusive and equitable future for all individuals.
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George Galloway: Rochdale MP criticised for 'blatant homophobia' after saying gay relationships are not 'normal'
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George Galloway has been accused of 'blatant homophobia' after saying he doesn't think that gay relationships are equal to heterosexual relationships. In an interview with Novara Media, the Rochdale MP said: "I don’t want my children prematurely sexualised at all, I don't want them taught that some things are normal when their parents don't believe that they're normal.
Momentum responded in a tweet that Mr Galloway's comments were 'shameful'. "This kind of blatant homophobia and opposition to LGBT rights has no place on the Left," the left-wing pressure group said.
Labour MP Sir Chris Bryant tweeted: "A while ago I was heavily criticised for saying that I feel more fearful as a gay man than in years gone by. Gay bashing and prejudice has never stopped but my sense of deep unease has increased significantly recently with moments like this."
Mr Galloway has previously represented seats in Glasgow, east London and Bradford in the Commons, for Labour and later the Respect Party.
And there you have it an attempted Establishment stitch up of a nascent grass roots working peoples political party that challenges Elitist notions of what the plebs should want, what is good for the plebs and How mean “Populist” party people are.
BLURRED LINES PARODY SONG - LGBTQ EDITION
George Galloway faces accusations of homophobia after expressing views on gender and education, but the attack is seen as an incompetent smear by the establishment. The video released by Navara highlighting Galloway's statements is being used to distract attention from the success of independent candidates in local elections. Galloway's comments about the normalcy of traditional family structures and his opposition to progressive education policies are seen as a challenge to mainstream narratives.
Detailed Summary for [Ranjan and Roger Follow up on The Novara Busted Flush on “Reavaling of Galloways” real Hand.]( Spoiler Alert, Gorgeous George has all the ACES)
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[00:00](
The video discusses George Galloway's views on gender and family structure in the education system, as well as accusations of straw man arguments and an establishment hit on a grassroots party.
- George Galloway expresses his belief that gender is an issue in the Scottish and English education system.
- He states that he wants his children to be taught that living with a mother and a father is not equal to other family structures, but doesn't claim one is worse.
- The video highlights accusations of straw man arguments and an establishment hit on a democratic grassroots party.
[04:05](
This section discusses the media's portrayal of George Galloway and his views on gender identity.
- The media is accused of creating a hit piece on Galloway after his election win.
- Galloway's stance on gender identity is misrepresented, with headlines accusing him of homophobia.
- The discussion highlights the presence of independent candidates and challenges the binary political system.
[08:10](
This section discusses the setup of a hit piece on George Galloway regarding his views on LGBT education and his comments about homosexuality.
- The hit piece is mentioned to be a precursor to the full interview.
- The snippet from George Galloway's appearance on Good Morning Britain is mentioned, which talks about a conservative election candidate being suspended over comments about homosexuals.
- The Manchester Evening News article from May 2, 2024, is referenced, where George Galloway is criticized for alleged homophobia.
- It is mentioned that the broadcast of the hit piece was supposed to be embargoed until after the elections, but it was released on May 2, potentially to damage electoral prospects.
[12:15](
discusses his concerns about LGBT education and accuses the media of incompetent smearing.
- Galloway supported the amendment that made the legal age of consent the same for all sexual orientations.
-the video expresses concerns about the current state of education and its implications on children.
-The video accuses the media of trying to smear Galloway, Muslims, and independent voters.
-The video criticizes progressive and woke education, stating it is not popular with working people and family-oriented individuals.
[16:20](
The speaker believes that the outrage over the classroom incident is exaggerated and driven by a hidden agenda.
- The speaker argues that there should be levels of regulation and freedom in the classroom.
- They suggest that the establishment is throwing a fit because they have been exposed as anti-democratic and fraudulent.
- The speaker analyzes the use of the word "normal" and suggests that it does not imply a judgment of good or bad.
- They believe that the outrage is an attempt to damage the electoral prospects of certain individuals or groups.
[20:25](
Galloway's interviewers are accused of being adversarial and carrying water for the establishment and Green New Deal agenda.
- Arun Bastani is described as a journalist who is carrying water for the establishment and the Green New Deal agenda.
- The interviewer is criticized for not being in favor of prosperity for ordinary people and for promoting policies that will impoverish people.
- The quality of politicians is said to have gone down over time.
- George Galloway's previous comments about Julian Assange's behavior are mentioned, with Galloway being critical of Assange's actions.
[24:30](
The speaker agrees with the analysis of capitalism and the Soviet Union being state capitalism, and expresses support for George Galloway while criticizing Rachel Johnson.
- The speaker identifies as an industrial capitalist or distributist.
- They believe that politics should prioritize the public good and speaking one's mind.
- They criticize Rachel Johnson and express disdain for her opinions and actions.
- The speaker believes that George Galloway holds the advantage in the current situation.
[28:35](
The speaker criticizes Bastani and accuses him of lying and being a hypocrite.
- The speaker believes that Bastani is not in the same league as Galloway and Galloway will give him a good spanking.
- They mention Bastanis use of semantics and accuse him of lying.
- The speaker expresses their disappointment in Bastanis behavior and calls him a fascist.
- They mention a picture of Galloway that they find unfavorable and criticize Aaron for it.
[06/05/2024 17:06] Ranjan: Message to Roger
Aaron sent me a voice note in which he referred to Galloway saying that Gay people are not normal. I don't think Galloway ever said that.
[06/05/2024 17:12] : I don't want them to be taught and at an age I to be taught that
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relations uh that gay relationships are exactly the same and as normal as a mom
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a dad and kids I believe I want my children to be taught that the normal
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thing in Britain in society across the world is a mother a father and a
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family I want them to be taught that there are gay people in the world and
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that they must be treated with respect and affection as I treat my own gay
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friends and colleagues with respect and affection but I don't want my children
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to be taught that these things are equal because I don't believe them to be equal part from anything else the human race
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would no longer exist if if it was normal uh then it would be the end of
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humanity over a couple of generations so I don't believe that it's normal normal
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is a man a woman and children I'm especially incensed at the
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idea what I call transmania but hold on let's stick to the gay stuff first because you're somebody who's voted for
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gay marriage before so you do you obviously do think it's normal because you think that a homosexual couple
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should be able to marry so I voted for it I even voted that they should be allowed to adopt uh children so I'm not
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coming at this from a reactionary position let's stick with this for a moment then because you're saying normal
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it's clearly not typical clearly the number of LGBT people is a is a minority it's not typical but if we sort of take
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that word out which is quite low to normal and say I don't think it's typical I think well I'd agree with you it's clearly not typical but it is
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normal in so much as there are there are 68 million people in this country there are hundreds of thousands of people who
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are who are gays that I mean that there are thousands of them that's about as get as Norm it gets there are thousands
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of them married partly because of my vote there are thousands of them with
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children partly because of my vote but that doesn't mean it is the equal of
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that it should be promoted in school you voted for it to be the equal
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no I I voted for gay people why should straight people be the only people to enjoy the joys of divorce as joke as a
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joke no we're talking about kids here grown adults can do whatever they
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like on we're talking about what's taught to our kids in school you said it's not equal but then you're saying
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it's not normal I said it's equal but it's not normal well I think you said it well people can rewind and maybe I'm
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maybe you're wrong but the point is you voted for a piece of legislation which implicitly recognizes equality under the
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law for gay people I I got a stone wall award for recognizing yes wow I don't
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know that because I was one of only a handful of MPS who opposed the reduction
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in the age of consent from 21 to 18 rather than
Zoom In 2
[06/05/2024 17:13] : I don't want my children
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to be taught that these things are equal because I don't believe them to be equal part from anything else the human race
40:16
would no longer exist if if it was normal
[06/05/2024 17:16] : there are thousands
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of them married partly because of my vote there are thousands of them with
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children partly because of my vote but that doesn't mean it is the equal of
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that it should be promoted in school you voted for it to be the equal
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no I I voted for gay people why should straight people be the only people to enjoy the joys of divorce as joke as a
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joke no we're talking about kids here grown adults can do whatever they
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like on we're talking about what's taught to our kids in school
Zoom in 3
[06/05/2024 17:17] : you said it's not equal but then you're saying
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it's not normal I said it's equal but it's not normal well I think you said it well people can rewind and maybe I'm
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maybe you're wrong but the point is you voted for a piece of legislation which implicitly recognizes equality under the
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law for gay people I I got a stone wall award for recognizing yes wow I don't
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know that because I was one of only a handful of MPS who opposed the reduction
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in the age of consent from 21 to 18 rather than
[06/05/2024 17:17] : SO what did they cook up on the rewind then Ranjan?
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Fully Automated Luxury Communism by Aaron Bastani – a manifesto for the future
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Social justice and limitless abundance – a leftwing provocateur serves up some techno-optimism
Andy Beckett
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“Under Fully Automated Luxury Communism,” writes Aaron Bastani towards the conclusion of this short, dizzyingly confident book, “we will see more of the world than ever before, eat varieties of food we have never heard of, and lead lives equivalent – if we so wish – to those of today’s billionaires. Luxury will pervade everything as society based on waged work becomes as much a relic as the feudal peasant ...”
There are practical challenges still, he admits, deploying phrases such as “once the technical barriers are surmounted”. But these cautions are rare and brief. Bastani doesn’t say so explicitly, but he is really an accelerationist, one of a small but influential line of thinkers, active in Britain since the 1990s, first mainly on the right, now increasingly on the left, who believe that the best path for humanity is to go faster, in all senses. “We must grasp the opportunities of the new world,” he writes, “rather than dwell on those … social mores which are quickly moving into the slipstream of history.” It’s easy to snort at, or feel unsettled by, such moments of Lenin-goes-to-Silicon-Valley rhetoric. Bastani’s vast proposals sometimes lack the relatively human scale and rootedness in history of the schemes, similar in optimism and intent, currently being promoted by other leftists as a Green New Deal.