Lets talk Assange ,Cypher punks, Schwarz , google Alphabet agencies and the Panopticon Jailer Bot
#FreeAssange
JA.
“And because it takes too long to describe this tomato precisely we use an abstraction so we can think about it so we can talk about it. And we do that also when we use URLs. Those are frequently used as a short name for some human intellectual content. And we build all of our civilization, other than on bricks, on human intellectual content. And so we currently have system with URLs where the structure we are building our civilization out of is the worst kind of melting plasticine imaginable. And that is a big problem. of course the wayback machine helps.
In the insightful conversation provided, the discussion covers a wide array of topics ranging from Julian Assange and the implications of his persecution to the broader issues related to freedom of information, geopolitics, and the current state of global affairs. The conversation delves into the role of intermediaries in governing the distribution of information and highlights the significance of alternative distribution mechanisms such as WikiLeaks. The mention of individuals like Julian Assange, Elon Musk, and Craig Wright adds depth to the discussion, drawing connections between their actions and the wider context of global events.
The conversation also touches upon the challenges faced by smaller banks, the impact of inflation and debt deflation on the construction sector, and the role of regulatory bodies in overseeing financial institutions. Additionally, it addresses the complexities of geopolitical dynamics, including the situation in Russia, the conflict in Gaza, and the implications of international decisions such as abstentions in UN votes.
Furthermore, the conversation delves into the influence of technology and digital currencies on global governance, with a particular focus on Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs) and their potential impact on financial systems. The discussion emphasizes the need to analyze historical events and milestones to gain a comprehensive understanding of current global developments.
Overall, the conversation provides a thought-provoking analysis of various interconnected issues, underlining the importance of critically examining geopolitical, economic, and technological developments in today's world. It encourages a nuanced approach to understanding complex global phenomena and emphasizes the need for intellectual rigor in assessing and responding to these multifaceted challenges.
I. Introduction
A. Acknowledgment of the user's input
B. Overview of the discussion points covered in the user's input
C. Statement of intent to generate an outline based on the input
II. Analysis of Julian Assange and Wikileaks
A. Assange's Persecution
1. The wider implications beyond Assange's individual case
2. The role of Wikileaks in challenging censorship and distribution of information
B. Connection to End-to-End Encryption and Cybersecurity
1. Comparison with other figures such as Aon Schwarz and Craig Wright
2. Impact on the distribution of information and freedom of communication
III. Extradition and Legal Implications
A. Discussion of the legal aspects of Assange's case
1. Extradition and political implications
2. Challenges to freedom of speech and alternative distribution mechanisms
B. Contextualization within the broader geopolitical landscape
1. The role of governments and international institutions in Assange's case
2. Implications for global governance and information dissemination
IV. Financial and Economic Perspectives
A. Impact on Banking and Financial Systems
1. The role of financial institutions in global events
2. Links to economic crises and regulatory oversight
B. Influence on Market Dynamics
1. The interconnectedness of financial markets and geopolitical events
2. Implications for monetary policy and global economic stability
V. Sociopolitical Considerations
A. Societal Impact of Information Distribution
1. The role of media and technology in shaping public discourse
2. Implications for freedom of expression and access to information
B. Geopolitical Ramifications
1. Influence on international relations and diplomatic negotiations
2. Connections to global conflicts and human rights issues
VI. Conclusion
A. Recapitulation of key points discussed in the outline
B. Emphasis on the multifaceted impact of Assange's case
C. Invitation for further discussion and exploration of related topics.
Note: This outline aims to capture the key themes and implications discussed in the user's input, providing a structured framework for deeper analysis and exploration of the interconnected issues surrounding Julian Assange, Wikileaks, cybersecurity, geopolitics, and global governance.
Offguardian today
https://off-guardian.org/2024/02/20/lets-talk-about-assanges-final-extradition-hearing/
Aaron Shwartz gave the world RSS feeds and Julian as an early cipher punk had a hand in many things end-to-end encrypted.
Wiki Leaks as a publication of info is a small part of the potential of Wiki leaks as a secure distributed communications platform.
As with Schwartz, Julian is inconvenient to the owners of the panopticon jailer bot Borg.
Musk is sort of a pseudo Assange stealing the clothes of people like Julian who went before or Stallman before him, Ted Nelson.
I pray for Julian’s release, he has been double-crossed somewhere along the line by one of the 3 letter agency factions.
When google met wikileaks on the going direct mind
Title: Navigating the Complexities of Financial Systems and Societal Challenges
As I read through various comments and articles, I find myself drawn into the intricate web of our current financial system and the underlying societal challenges. It's a complex landscape with numerous aspects to consider, making it a daunting task to know where to begin. The ongoing re-imagining of the system, especially in response to potential pandemics, has brought about significant changes that warrant careful examination.
One key aspect that stands out is the role of Aadhaar in reshaping the system. Richard's insights on credit creation and allocation within the economy are thought-provoking and shed light on the intricate workings of financial systems. His interviews with Hugh Hendry and the Last American Vagabond provide valuable perspectives on credit creation, exchange rates, and the broader economic landscape.
The discussion also delves into the concept of peak oil and its potential implications for energy production and global dynamics. The interplay between oil production, swing producers, and geopolitical influences adds another layer of complexity to the ongoing re-imagining of financial systems.
Furthermore, the significance of Julian Assange and WikiLeaks in providing access to raw data and challenging established narratives cannot be overlooked. The open-source internet and the need for critical thinking across various fields are essential in fostering a more informed and empowered society.
Amidst these discussions, there is a critical examination of the financial crash preceding the pandemic response and the need to question the narrative that attributes all economic disruptions solely to the pandemic. It is essential to critically assess the plausibility of explanations and identify underlying factors contributing to these disruptions.
The conversation also touches upon the role of social media, internet algorithms, and narrative production in shaping public discourse. The influence of power structures on information dissemination and the suppression of alternative viewpoints highlight the need for independent critical thinking beyond traditional channels.
A deeper exploration of Richard's analysis on credit creation, productive versus non-productive uses of credit, and the implications for economic prosperity provides valuable insights into the complexities of financial systems. The discussion also addresses the limitations of certain economic theories and their impact on policy decisions.
The conversation extends to societal challenges, including education, control, and lifelong learning. The distinction between right answers and correct answers, as well as the emphasis on lifelong education over lifelong indoctrination, underscores the need for a more holistic approach to learning and personal development.
The discourse also sheds light on the significance of Julian Assange's extradition and its implications for freedom of information and justice systems. The treatment of Assange is highlighted as a concerning abuse of power that contravenes fundamental principles of law and equity.
The conversation further delves into economic models, universal basic income, and societal structures. The need for a more equitable distribution of resources, coupled with a critical assessment of existing economic paradigms, points towards a broader societal transformation.
Amidst these discussions, there is a sense of hope in the power of super cooperators and the resilience of individuals seeking to connect and collaborate for positive change. The internet's role in facilitating these connections and fostering meaningful dialogue is a testament to its potential as a tool for societal transformation.
In conclusion, the multifaceted nature of financial systems, societal challenges, and geopolitical dynamics necessitates a comprehensive and critical approach to understanding and addressing these complexities. By fostering open dialogue, embracing diverse perspectives, and challenging established narratives, we can navigate these complexities with greater clarity and purpose.
As we continue to navigate the intricate web of financial systems and societal challenges, it is imperative to remain vigilant, critically assess information, and seek collaborative solutions that empower individuals and foster positive societal transformation.
I. Introduction
A. Overview of the discussion
B. Key themes and topics covered
C. Importance of the conversation
II. Reimagining the System
A. Underlying reasons for reimagining the system
B. Response to potential pandemic
C. Impact of Aardhar on the reimagining process
D. Role of credit creation and allocation in the economy
III. Financial Systems and Energy Dynamics
A. Peak oil and its implications
B. Transition from oil to renewables
C. Influence of the fiat dollar standard
D. Energy economics and geopolitical implications
IV. Open Source Internet and Information Access
A. Role of Julian Assange and WikiLeaks
B. Significance of open source internet and research
C. Impact of social media and internet algorithms
V. Financial Crash and Pandemic Response
A. Unveiling the true causes behind the pandemic response
B. Impact on financial markets and derivatives
C. Analysis of non-productive bank games
VI. Social and Political Commentary
A. Education, control, and lifelong learning
B. Critique of left-right political dichotomy
C. Impact of the ruling establishment and central banks
VII. Human Empathy and Justice
A. Discussion on Julian Assange's extradition case
B. Critique of the British and US justice systems
C. Importance of empathy and ethical considerations
VIII. Super Cooperators and Internet Discourse
A. Role of super cooperators in shaping discourse
B. Overcoming disruptions in communication channels
C. Encouraging collaborative efforts for positive change
IX. Conclusion
A. Summary of key points discussed
B. Hope for continued collaboration and discourse
C. Importance of diverse perspectives in shaping the future
full spectrum surveillance apparatus through digital passports, #Thiel, #Schmidt #Assange , When Google Met Wikileaks #Bilderberg #Palantir
ROGERGLEWIS DECEMBER 7, 2021 7 COMMENTS
full spectrum surveillance apparatus through digital passports
From Norfolk to Bellmarsh, Assange whilst under house arrest Prescient on Mrna. The Techno Fascism of Thiel and Schmidt. All about control.
I beleive at this point that Vaccine hysteria is actually the objective of TPTB and it is a good strategy whilst a full spectrum surviellance apparatus through digital passports is put in Place, The Chinese Model, Aadhaar and CBDC , State monopoly capitalism, Palantir and Thiel are key aspects to these technocratic world views.
J.A
on youtube. It’s great. A wonderful thing. So it is explaining nuclear synthesis through interpretive dance. And so there are like a hundred and thirty Stanford students out there pretending to be DNA, a whole bunch pretending to be a ribosomal subunit and da da da. And all wearing the hippy clothes of the day. But they were all actually very bright people. And I looked at that and thought, could Stanford.. and it was a very good bit of education, so it is not that it was cool and unusual, rather that it was extremely instructive, and before computer animation was the best representation of how a ribosomal unit behaves. Could you see Stanford doing that now? Absolutely impossible. It is far too conservative for it to do that now, even though that was an extremely effective education… you can bet everyone who was in that dance remembers exactly how nuclear synthesis occurs, because they all had to remember their parts. And I remember it having seen it. No, rather that period of peak earnings for the average wage in the United States was, what, like ’77? That certain things simply happened. That those people who were altruistic and not too concerned about finances and fiscalization simply lost power relative to those people who were more concerned about finances and fiscalization and worked their way up in the system.
certain behaviours were disincentivized and others were potentiated. And that is primarily I believe as a result of technology that enables fiscalization. So fast bank transfers. The IRS being able to account for lots of people, it sucks people into a very rigid fiscalized structure. So you can have a lot of political change in the United States. But will it really change that much? Will it change the amount of money in someone’s bank account? Will it change contracts? Will it void contracts that already exist? And contracts on contracts, and contracts on contracts on contracts? Not really. So I say that free speech in many places – in many Western places – is free not as a result of liberal circumstances in the West but rather as a result of such intense fiscalization that it doesn’t matter what you say. ie. the dominant elite doesn’t have to be scared of what people think, because a change in political view is not going to change whether they own their company or not. It is not going to change whether they own a piece of land or not. But China is still a political society. Although it is radically heading towards a fiscalized society. And other societies, like Egypt was, are still heavily politicized. And so their rulers really do need to be concerned about what people think, and so they spend a portion of efforts on controlling freedom of speech.
JC
So if you were…
JA
But I think young people have fairly good values. Of course it’s a spectrum and so on. But they have fairly good values most of the time. And they want to demonstrate them to other people and you can see this when people first go to university and so on. And they become hardened as a result of certain things having a pay off and other things not having a payoff. Studying for an exam, constantly, even though in some cases the work is completely mindless, and pointless, has a payoff at the end of the year, but going and talking to someone and doing a favour doesn’t have a payoff at the end of the year. And so this disincentivizes some behaviours and incentivizes other ones.
JC
But let me tease out some of this, I mean it sounds like you have got a view of the globe with certain societies where the impact of technology is relatively slight, certain societies where politically the impact of technology can be quite great, and certain societies where it would be at a sort of middling way. And you would put China into I guess the middling category.
JA
Well, it’s starting to…
JC
Since our book is all about technology and social transformation ten years down the line… what’s the globe that you see given the structure that you are describing?
JA
I am not sure about the impact on China. It is still a political society, so the impact could be very great. I mean I often say that censorship is always cause for celebration. It is always an opportunity, because it reveals fear of reform. It means that the power position is so weak that you have got to care about what people think.
JC
Right. It’s like you find the sensitive documents by watching them hunt.
JA
Exactly.
ES
This is a very interesting argument.
JC
Sorry, I didn’t mean to interrupt.
JA
So when the Chinese express all this energy on censoring in all these novel ways, do we say that it is a complete waste of time and energy, or do they have a whole bunch of experience managing the country and understand that it matters what people think? I say it is much more reasonable to interpret it as the different groups different actors within China who are able to control that censorship system understand correctly that their power position is weak and they need to be careful what people think. So they have to censor.
JC
So the state is rational, at least in its repression.
JA
I am always worried in talking about the state, because it’s all individuals acting in their own perceived interest. Some, this group or that group.
JA
And he started writing letters to all of the London papers who had records of his 2003 extradition to France and conviction for corruption in France over the Elf-Acquitaine scandal. Where he had been involved in taking kickbacks on selling the invaded Kuwaiti governments’ oil refineries in order to fund their operations while Iraq had occupied it. So the Guardian pulled three articles from 2003. So they were five years old. They had been in the Guardian’s archive for 5 years. Without saying anything. If you go to those URLs you will not see “removed due to legal threats.” You will see “page not found.” And one from the Telegraph. And a bunch from some American publications. And bloggers, and so on. Important bits of history, recent history, that were relevant to an ongoing presidential campaign in the United States were pulled out of the intellectal record. They were also pulled out of the Guardian’s index of articles. So why? The Guardian’s published in print, and you can go to the library and look up those articles. They are still there in the library. How would you know that they were there in the library? To look up, because they are not there in the Guardian’s index. Not only have they ceased to exist, they have ceased to have ever existed. Which is the modern implementation of Orwell’s dictum that he controls the present controls the past and he who controls the past controls the future. Because the past is stored physically in the present. All records of the past. This issue of preserving politically salient intellectual content while it is under attack is central to what WikiLeaks does — because that is what we are after! We are after those bits that people are trying to suppress, because we suspect, usually rightly, that they’re expending economic work on suppressing those bits because they perceive that they are going to induce some change. at about 30 mins, this is very very interesting . further
Julian and David Graeber on the eve of the Brexit vote. I watched it live on the night.
10:22
Then
NHS running lean, Julian is in Bellmarsh, in 2011 he describes how the pyramid of censorship worked then , it has only got worse and the main thing is self censorship which again has got worse. and then theres Aaron Swartz.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz
and the memory hole is so effective with the URL point made by Julian here. J:A:
JA.
“And because it takes too long to describe this tomato precisely we use an abstraction so we can think about it so we can talk about it. And we do that also when we use URLs. Those are frequently used as a short name for some human intellectual content. And we build all of our civilization, other than on bricks, on human intellectual content. And so we currently have system with URLs where the structure we are building our civilization out of is the worst kind of melting plasticine imaginable. And that is a big problem. of course the wayback machine helps.
https://archive.org/details/TranscriptOfSecretMeetingBetweenJulianAssangeAndGoogleCEOEricSchmidt
One Flu over the Cuckoos Nest. Boris and Matts’ economy with the actualite. NHS Spin running on Lean #Covidstroika #WhathappenedtoFlu Where did all the beds go?
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“Well, conspiracy theory was invented by the spies. No one does more more conspiracy theory than spies do. The national security apparatus cooks up conspiracy theories all the time, but they put out this story that is just conspiracy theory, as though it’s contemptible. But in fact, they’re the ones who cook up the threats that are far more complex and bizarre than anything we ordinary people could ever cook up and they get billions to fight it. So they’re almost diabolically conspiratorially. So let me call myself a sceptic and I’m willing to learn, welcome criticism. I don’t mind these terms of being a dissident, a conspiracy theorist. Those are all throwaway terms. (interview with RT Jan 2, 2011)”
John Young [2]
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/John_Young
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Limited_hangout#Modified_limited_hangout
S A DIGITAL BANK PASSPORT NOT A VACCINE PASSPORT #QED. #NAOMIWOLF @NAOMIRWOLF
I beleive at this point that Vaccine hysteria is actually the objective of TPTB and it is a good strategy whilst a full spectrum surviellance apparatus through digital passports is put in Place, The Chinese Model, Aadhaar and CBDC , State monopoly capitalism, Palantir and Thiel are key aspects to these technocratic world views.
This is what Censorship trying to understand free speech sounds like.
At 2hrs 24 mins.
JC
Wow.
ES
That’s interesting. So, on the assumption that the current legal stuff is all resolved, the next few years are… what happens with WikiLeaks, it becomes… Again, we want to talk about for us t=0 is a year from now, so we’re thinking about a year from now, next year the next year. Does WikiLeaks just become bigger, more donors, more technology, you going to change it in some way?
JA
There is lots of changes. I think this idea I had about how to structure intellectual information is important. So we will overlay that…
ES
So that’s… that’s actually a part of your plan, that you’re talking about.
JA
When you do have a presence… When you have such public recognition, you have the luxury of being able to take fairly complex intellectual ideas and push them up. That would normally take a long time to sort of organically get traction, like Sun did with Java, for example, they take a long time to organically get traction, but you can put your weight behind them and push them up so we have some of those moves we can make. But also I’ve seen that it’s very difficult for us to be a command and control organization. You spoke about the difficulties that you had to learn with Novell, but for us as an organization, like a command and control organization with a leadership and people who carry out tasks, we are in a position where we have the full force of a superpower and its investigative organs, and the rest of NATO, operating against us, bribing people, monitoring communications, etc, so that means that for us any little psychological weakness in our people, any friction between our people, can lead to those forces plucking them off.
ES
You could be infiltrated you mean. In theory.
JA
Yeah. Infiltrated. The plucking off I think is a bigger problem.
ES
No I mean… But the forces opposed to you…
JA
But you are right about the infiltration…
ES
But the forces opposed to you, they will think, okay, this is a foreign actor, let’s send our agent in, become a member, discover all their secrets.
JA
Right, and we are aware of that problem and we investigate people, and so on. But what that means is that it has tremendously slowed down our growth. Because you can’t just put an ad out and say we want you to have these skills and come into the office, it is absolutely impossible. So growth is constrained in that way. But there is another way of leading, and that is leading through values instead of command and control. And when you lead through values you don’t need to trust people, and values and the number of people who can adopt the value, there is no limit on the speed of adoption. It all happens very quickly. It’s not, supply, in terms of employer supply limited, rather it’s demand limited, as soon as people demand a value they adopt it.
ES
I see that, the way I express that, is that the power of an idea is under-appreciated. That you can get the idea inserted correctly then millions of people… My comment would be that the deeper ideas that you are talking about they are either not understood or they are being fought by misinformation. You know as you said it’s a clever use of words, turned against you, what have you. So you have I think a challenge to get the deeper arguments that you have made to us, heard over all these other forces.
JA
Saying it… well, if you say lies for long enough people start to believe it as well, but so this, the “Afghan release was a terrible thing.” This has now spread so fast that we are basically given up trying to knock it down. The energy is better off spent doing something else. But we do see that we are educating a whole range of people about us and about our values and about things that we believe in. And now what is happening is that these people are finding each other across the world and across states. And we are creating our own computational network of human beings that can think in the same way, that on a point to point basis can trust each other. We started out last year in a position where we had this big confrontation with the State Department, and the Pentagon at the same time. One of our few claims to success is that we’ve managed to get the Pentagon and the State Department to cooperate.
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ne 2011, Julian Assange received an unusual visitor: the chairman of Google, Eric Schmidt, arrived from America at Ellingham Hall, the country residence in Norfolk, England where Assange was living under house arrest.
For several hours the besieged leader of the world’s most famous insurgent publishing organization and the billionaire head of the world’s largest information empire locked horns. The two men debated the political problems faced by society, and the technological solutions engendered by the global network—from the Arab Spring to Bitcoin. They outlined radically opposing perspectives: for Assange, the liberating power of the Internet is based on its freedom and statelessness. For Schmidt, emancipation is at one with US foreign policy objectives and is driven by connecting non-Western countries to American companies and markets. These differences embodied a tug-of-war over the Internet’s future that has only gathered force subsequently.
When Google Met WikiLeaks presents the story of Assange and Schmidt’s encounter. Both fascinating and alarming, it contains an edited transcript of their conversation and extensive, new material, written by Assange specifically for this book, providing the best available summary of his vision for the future of the Internet.
Table of contents :
BEYOND GOOD AND “DON’T BE EVIL” 1
THE BANALITY OF “DON’T BE EVIL” 53
ELLINGHAM HALL , JUNE 23, 2011 61
From Those Who See, to Those Who Act 65
THE NAMING OF THINGS 80
COMMUNICATING IN A REVOLUTIONARY MOMENT 108
CENSORSHIP IS ALWAYS CAUSE FOR CELEBRATION 115
Secrecy Is Criminogenic 130
INTERLUDE 149
IT’S NOT EASY TO DO A WIKILEAKS 155
TOTAL PUBLISHING 165
THE PROCESS IS THE END GAME 182
DELIVER US FROM “DON’T BE EVIL” 193
Background on U.s. v. WikiLeaks 205
ACKNOWLEDGMENTS 221
Note on References 223
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Going Direct to Backwardation.” in the language of the internet; it’s happening! ” The Going Direct Paradigm, March 13, 2023
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steph pomboy @spomboy Called Out the Ides of March and the #SPVcollapse @JohnTitus March 12, 2023
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July 16, 2019
“QUOD ERAT DEMONSTRANDUM”, DOUBLING BACK TO MAKE SENSE OF THE DOUBLING DOWN, DOUBLE SPEAK AND DOUBLE PLUS GOOD, BEWARE THOUGHT CRIME AHEAD!
THE PAMPHLET ARGUED THAT “THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE TO WORK HARD WITH THEIR LIMBS, AND THOSE WHO ARE INCLINED TO SIT ABOUT” WILL “STORE UP THEIR PROTEIN FOR PASSION”, MAKING RETIREMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, A PERIOD OF INCREASED PASSION AND MARITAL DISCORD.[14] IT ENDED BY WARNING: “BEWARE OF THE FUN OF INDECENT SUGGESTIONS; OF THE AMUSEMENT FROM THE TITILLATING SCANDAL OF PRIVATE LIVES; OF THE DIVERSION OF THE UNDRESS OF LOW JOURNALISM ETCETERA. THESE THINGS ERODE OUR MORALS AND TWIST YOUNG MINDS.”[15] IN ADDITION TO THE PAMPHLET, GREEN LEFT SEVERAL UNPUBLISHED MANUSCRIPTS, INCLUDING A NOVEL, BEHIND THE VEIL: MORE THAN JUST A TALE; A 67-PAGE TEXT, PASSION AND PROTEIN; AND A 392-PAGE EDITION OF EIGHT PASSION PROTEINS, WHICH, CARTER WRITES, WAS REJECTED BY OXFORD UNIVERSITY PRESS IN 1971.[4]
“NEXT PLUNG’D A FEEBLE, BUT A DESP’RATE PACK,
WITH EACH A SICKLY BROTHER AT HIS BACK:
SONS OF A DAY! JUST BUOYANT ON THE FLOOD,
THEN NUMBER’D WITH THE PUPPIES IN THE MUD.
ASK YE THEIR NAMES? I COULD AS SOON DISCLOSE
THE NAMES OF THESE BLIND PUPPIES AS OF THOSE.”(B 305–310)
Pope The Dunciad.
https://longhairedmusings.wordpress.com/2018/05/24/the-oligarchical-temper-theophrastus/
Doubling Back I often find somewhat more productive than doubling down.
Doubling Down is a form of denial and Doubling Back is a retracing of steps to find where one took a misstep.
I Reblogged this Article John at the time you wrote it and it was included as a link in another post I did yesterday which double-backed and referred to previous Posts from Dr. Tim Morgan.
Whilst the end of the World is not night, the end of the current monetary arrangements are nigh
This is the Dawning of the new Grub Street Aquarius
END OF OWNERSHIP, CIRCULAR ECONOMY PROOF OF BRAIN AND PRIMARY, INTERMEDIARY AND CONSUMPTION ENERGY TOKENS. A FRAMEWORK EVOLVES.
If one just accepts that there is nothing to redeem the existing Finance System getting on with rebasing money to
Either Joules or KWH equivalents in the three categories of Primary Intermediary and ConsumptionAnd noting the Hoarding aspects of energy in long-term capital assets and applying something akin to the single land tax on them, we really can get somewhere near to a sustainable Birth Right economy. Where it gets very interesting is in the Information economy where shared knowledge doubles the knowledge it does not half it. Richard Stallman (GNU) often makes that very point.
To satisfy the need for Status in the Social Animal Humans Kind ( see Pigou Dalton Principle for a Theoretical framework for Taxation boundary conditions. ) Anyhow it is in the space of non-monetised social interactions where the second sort of discretionary token can be created on a blockchain providing the necessary ornament and display trinkets that determine the mating game? I will not elaborate here but Forres / Lagom the community system I have been working on has the idea that it is Mineable or winnable or giftable, The Distributed computing platform Steemit has something called proof of Brain which is a species of the sort of on-line social success measure which can easily be monetised to provide a competitive element to the Production of both the Birth Right token and the Discretionary speculative mating game side of the sustainable circular economy.
https://twitter.com/PMotels/status/1150990539162116098
https://t.co/wTkFFDrwOv #Eleven10t0thetwoOne for the skeptics’ Nothing to fear but fear itself the economy as energy transformation machine. #Nafta #RossPerot #WrongkindofGreen #EnergyEconomic #8thwaytothink #ConquestofDough #ObjectiveKhunts #GrubStreetJournal #OIP #Alexanadria pic.twitter.com/0yKap9EJXj— RogerGLewis (@PMotels) July 16, 2019 https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js
WE SHOULD BE CAREFULLY LOOKING AT WHERE WE ARE INVESTING OUR MONEY. (1)
(1)ED. THIS IS THE KEY MISUNDERSTANDING, THE WHOLE BASIS OF THIS ANALYSIS SHOULD LOOK AT NET ENERGY SURPLUS OVER COST OF ENERGY EXTRACTION, THEN IN A REAL SENSE THE SENTANCE , “WE SHOULD BE CAREFULLY LOOKING AT WHERE WE ARE INVESTING OUR ENERGY ( QUA, ENERGY )”, WOULD HAVE AN ENERGY-BASED MONETARY UNIT TAKING THE PLACE OF THE DEBT-BASED MONETARY UNIT AS A REFERENT, THE DEBT-BASED MONETARY UNIT AS A REFERENT RENDERS THE STATEMENT MEANINGLESS A PER PRO-ENERGY CAPITAL ALLOCATION DECISIONS.
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POSSIBILIST PERSPECTIVE ON POST GROWTH, SUSTAINABLE MONEY AND SUSTAINABLE ENERGY. WHO’S REALITY.
rogerglewis Uncategorized February 26, 2018 3 Minutes
https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/2018/02/23/120-the-need-for-new-ideas/
Hello Tim,
I have not commented for a while, I almost did on a recent blog in which you said that Electric Cars were no panacea, which of course they are not.
I know that that blog and this are looking for discussion and in this spirit offer this VPRO documentary which is in Dutch, subtitles are available in English.
http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/2018/02/the-distributed-web-energy-based.html
https://longhairedmusings.wordpress.com/?s=Distributed+Web
I came across another interesting proposal for money creation the other day.
https://medium.com/@stephenstillwell/why-should-we-not-include-each-in-money-creation-b581c7dedeef
These questions of Circular Economy, Materials Passports, re-defining prosperity, Status questions, Distributive and re-distributive political economy all feedback into a question of *Whoś Reality’ are we seeking to cater for in our political Economy.
That is a fundamental question Who’s Reality?
Your perspective is grounded in abstracting reality to a balance sheet view albeit a balance sheet based on SEEDS energy metrics. My own perspectives are drawn from technological perspectives and these Cornucopian views of Cornucopian possibilities derived from circular manufacturing concepts lead me to be optimistic as a possibilist technologically speaking. The obstacles are and will remain political and geopolitical and here the Pigou Dalton principle regarding status and managing expectations becomes paramount.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigou%E2%80%93Dalton_principle
I would be very interested to hear what you think of Thomas Rau’s ideas I find them compelling.
Best Wishes and A belated happy new year.
https://medium.com/@stephenstillwell/why-should-we-not-include-each-in-money-creation-b581c7dedeef
Why should we not include each in money creation?
All sovereign debt shall be financed with Shares of global fiat credit, that may be claimed by each adult human on the planet, held in trust with local deposit banks, administered by local fiduciaries and actuaries exclusively for secure sovereign investment at a fixed and sustainable rate, as part of an actual social contract
This is a great idea, getting the conversation started is quite a problem even with those with a long history of supporting Universal Basic Income. Stating a proposal this boldly is an excellent initiative as it invites people to sign up unless they have a sound objection. I see no objection and would happily sign up to this to get the show on the road.
Here is a Dialogue I had with Clive Lord Joint founder of the UK Green Party, I wish Clive could see the money creation question as clearly as you state it here Stephen.
http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/2016/08/neo-liberalism-billy-no-mates-or-just.html
Go to the profile of Clive Lord
Clive Lord
Feb 25
‘Fiat’ money MUST be tied to eco-considerations, so must entail redistribution, and with a Basic Income taxes can reflect what is, or is not sustainable.
Go to the profile of Roger Glyndwr Lewis
Roger Glyndwr Lewis
Feb 26
Hello Clive,
I am really happy you have joined this discussion I think that Stephens’s distillation of the problem to his simple rule provides a very good starting point to understanding what money is and what it can be.
The problem of Re-distribution instead of Distribution is one of the politics of Status. The Pigou Dalton principle nailed this very well in the 1920’s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigou%E2%80%93Dalton_principle
Regarding sustainability, I think that Energy-based metrics for money values is essential this is nothing to do with redistribution and everything to do with being cognisant of what stuff there is and where that stuff is. Dr. Tim Morgan has done some excellent work on the question recently on his Blog.
http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/2017/09/money-does-not-initiate-economic.html
http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/2017/09/energy-economics-miixing-debt-apples.html
Tim Morgan in the last blöog of his I read a few weeks ago appeared to be getting frustrated and drawn into frustration and doubt as to the extent to which new energy technologies can really sustain the Human Family Hans Rausing used to call himself a possibilist and I think that’s a great positive view to have regarding Stephens simple rule I think we can all speak to our inner possibilist and see that he is on to something here.
WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A DISTRIBUTED VALUE AND VOTING SYSTEM. WHERE IS THE EMBEDDED POWER? IS IT TRULY DISTRIBUTED, DEMOCRATIC AND CONSENSUS-BASED?
The answer depends on what the ultimate aim is for the questioner.
The issues are, Centralisation versus decentralisation Issues revolve then around the production of money and distribution of money In the Crypto world, the euphemism for centrally created is Pre Mined, of course, it is not pre-mined at all in the case of Stellar, Cardano, Ripple and of Course Tether. The next layer of the money creation question then comes to Real Pre mining which is to do with allowing an exclusive group usually the development community to mine for a period at the genesis block to a further period which effectively reserves a big chunk of the first money created to rest in the hands of a powerful group, this question is often discussed in initial coin offerings. The most famous pre miner is, of course, Satoshi ( him/Her self ) The Genesis blocks and the keys to the first bitcoin blocks are in the hands of the mysterious Satoshi and amount to 10% of all bitcoin in existence the video I sent yesterday of Heart and Verr discussing Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash has a large section when this is discussed other videos I sent have included discussions of the Monero Crippled Miner and also the Genesis mining of Dash and Ethans fast one regarding who got the lions share and hence control of a supposedly distributed and decentralised value system. Ethereum tackled all of these questions and was and is very transparent there is still a high concentration of power as represented by concentration of token control at the top but not as bad as say Ripple and Tether- The next question you get is, is it open source and how truly open-source and accessible is the decision-making process ? this is the much-vaunted Consensus algorithm stuff. The Byzantine General and all of that, At this point you get to the Hard Forks soft forks and Discussion regarding Bitcoin Gold/Cash/core etc. Craig Wright (I Think he is Satoshi or Half of Satoshi who I believe were he and his US friend who died of cancer a few years back now ( details are important) I.e Satoshi never was just one person the initial effort was a group effort including Nick Szabo and some other notable Cypher Punks, you also have to factor in people like Julian Assange and WikiLeaks which is all part of the same movement that Bitcoin emerged out of. So that takes us back to who are the good guys and bad guys the answer to which is you pays your money and makes your choice or in my case you Build your miner and choose your Currency/pool. I mine EThereum but will in due course be mining ETHER ( for as long as I can I:E Proof of Stake) Ethereum Classic, the debate between Ethereum and Ethereum Classic, dates back to the DAO hard Fork and the DAO Hack. This is the bit about Rolling back the BlockChain. Heart is against it in the Heart Verr interview, I think he’s wrong to be absolutist about it, I agree with Ethereum Classic in many ways but think they were wrong to say that the Dao Hacker should have been let off the hook. I Like Ethereum, Dash, Monero Bitcoin Gold/ Ethereum Classic Bitcoin Bitcoin Cash SIA Coin IBIQ and BISQ as an exchange Finally, I like Gold and Silver and Lanthanides ( rare earth Metals ) Lietears Terra made into a Crypto would be the ultimate good Guy the work I did a year or two back on currencies in this space tackles all these questions http://www.lietaer.com/2010/01/terra/
ENERGY RETURNED ON ENERGY INVESTED, SURPLUS ENERGY ECONOMICS DATA BASE ( SEEDS) EMBODIED ENERGY CIRCULAR ECONOMY.
rogerglewis Uncategorized March 10, 2018 28 Minutes
” A question was put to the former chief of the Executive Board of the Deutsche Bank, Hilmar Kopper in an interview in a TV network in the spring of 1991: “What is it that gives money its actual value?” One might have expected Kopper to refer to the performance of the political economy that provides the cover for our money. But the reply of the banker was short and to the point: “The time factor means that it (money) increases through interest”, and to the inquiry of the astounded interviewer: “Money without time is then nothing?”, he confirmed the same in more detail: “Money without time means nothing, of course, it can be spent right away. But that does not multiply money, money is then turned into something else.” This definition of a former banking expert is significant. According to him, our money is not primarily for the purpose of mediating an exchange of goods and services in the economic system, but more for self-propagation!”
Interest as a Means of Redistribution / 8 Excerpt from Helmut Creutz The Money Syndrome Towards a Market Economy Free from Crises
https://realcurrencies.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/monsyndrome_ch-7-18-21-22-1.pdf
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This famous cartoon shows The Golden Tail ( Store of Value) wagging the Silver ( Means of Exchange Dog ) it is from 1896 at the time of the famous William Jennings Bryant Cross of Gold Speech. One point which cannot go unconsidered is the point that Atom bank make but don’t back up as far as I can gather, and that is that Blockchain technology gives parties who wish to contract to exchange the opportunity to bypass banking intermediation or any other intermediation, effectively every transaction potentially has its own private bank as a special purpose vehicle. If this negates traditional bank intermediation services and Bankings monopoly to Originate money through credit, is also gone. Are we looking at the famous African Blue Bank, is it deceased, has it ceased to be and gone to meet its maker?
THE DISTRIBUTED WEB, ENERGY BASED ECONOMICS , TRUSTLESS VALUE TRANSFER SYSTEMS.
rogerglewis Uncategorized February 10, 2018 2 Minutes
Periodically, usually every 12-18 months I find that my reading and research loop back to a common point, All roads lead back to a central direction or a common vector. This past 3 months I have been immersed in the Hardware side of computing looking at and implementing my own Mining operation for Crypto Currencies
QED
16:1
THE SIX WAYS ON SUNDAY, CARBON CURRENCY END GAME 16 TO 1 ON, WHAT ARE THE ODDS OF THAT?. R &R DISCUS
If one observes the long game the dominant Narrative of the past 30 years is Climate Change and CO2 emission being the only thing anyone needs to focus upon. The Carbon footprint narrative is by a long chalk well ahead of the curve even with the relatively short but seemingly endless Pandemic and Vaccine Narratives of the Past two years.
Naming names ,Larry Fink of Blackstone and Blackstones Going Direct is considerably more powerful a control lever on what happens next than the efforts of Bill Gates and Dr. Fauci to enrich Big Pharma and themselves, Gates also has a bigger card in the game and that is Digital ID and its relationship to both Near earth Satellite networks and the 5G networks, which coincidentally really were rolling out at the Same Time as the Wuhan Event, also in coincidentally Wuhan.
The Vaccines and Vaccine Injury is very much closely related to the Adjuvants and not necessarily the Pathogen dose delivered in the solution of the Adjuvant. It is the Adjuvant rather than the disease which is of interest to the 5G / ID aspects of what the past two years have really been all about.
The Repo Spike in Newyork on September the 19th was the starting pistol, of course, the dress rehearsal was Event 201, The Objective was almost certainly to gain widespread acceptance of Digital ID's on SmartPhone devices and possibly by stealth through Nanotechnology, within the Adjuvant solutions in the MRNA vaccines( Experimental Gene Therapies?).
So what about Climate Change, CO2, and all that, no its not the Graphine found in some adjuvant samples but the Rationing of Carbon through a Carbon-based currency which is why the Climate Change Agenda particularly the CO2 control knob is so important.
The ratio of Good Energy ( renewables) for which Carbon Credits will be created and Bad Energy of "Fossil Fuels which represent Carbon debits, is 16:1. There are various combinations which could see the ratio vary but essentially as with The Gold Standard a Carbon Credit Renewables Standard has the same ratio as the Historical Bi-Metallic ratio known to numasticist's the world over. A deflationary centralised banking regime will be able to impose Austerity to an authoritarian extent extending to a population control mechanism. This is a far more likely delivery mechanism for Rapid population reduction policies than any Vaccination regime, Famine equally, is a far more effective and efficient means of population reduction than certainly War or any other form of genocide, also for the Authoritarian regime deploying it, it is also complete with a shield of plausible deniability.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/BTqQ2FyU8Uzc/
https://priceofoil.org/content/uploads/2011/01/DrillingIntoDebt.pdf
AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN DEBT AND OIL
The report “Drilling into Debt” presents a comprehensive analysis of the relationship between oil and debt, drawing on data from 161 countries over a significant time span. The key findings highlight the strong correlation between oil production, exports, and increasing debt burdens. It is evident that countries with higher oil production and export dependence tend to accumulate more debt, while also experiencing improved capacity to service existing debts. Additionally, the report sheds light on the detrimental impact of World Bank programs aimed at promoting oil production in developing countries, which have contributed to exacerbating debt levels. The interplay of structural incentives, fiscal policies, and oil market volatility emerges as a significant factor driving the relationship between debt and oil. Furthermore, the report underscores the disproportionate benefits reaped by Northern consumers and governments in contrast to the adverse effects on poverty alleviation, development, and global climate stability. Overall, the findings present a compelling case for reevaluating the dynamics of the global oil economy to better align with broader societal interests.
The control of oil : Blair, John M. (John Malcolm), 1914- : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
https://archive.org/details/controlofoil0000blai
via @internetarchive
An exhaustive and generally balanced account of why the US and other industrial powers became dangerously dependent on foreign oil. A college professor who served thirteen years as chief economist of the Senate Subcommittee on Antitrust and Monopoly, Blair chronicles how seven major international petroleum producers–integrated from well to gas pump–began operating in restraint of trade with the usually eager complicity of Mideast rulers around the turn of the century “to avoid the rigors of price rivalry.” Even as control of concessions passes to host nations through nationalization or pre-emptive participation agreements, he maintains, Big Oil retains its hold. Although crude quotas have quadrupled since 1973, OPEC still dances to the majors’ tune in fear that oversupply could break prices in the West’s volume markets. Having documented both the causes and consequences of monopolistic control of oil resources, Blair suggests several remedies, chiefly utility-style federal regulation of large crude suppliers and vigorous enforcement of antitrust statutes. The book touches on petroleum alternatives as well as supplements (synthetics, electric cars, fuel cells). While Blair’s style must be characterized as academic-graceless, he provides damning detail for the upcoming debate on the extent to which oil-industry concentration represents an abuse of economic power overdue for redress. His work is as important and valuable as it is disturbing
https://rumble.com/vmyx1n-monopoly-who-owns-the-world-documentary-by-tim-gielen.html
https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/2019/09/02/155-the-art-of-dark-sky-thinking/
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